#I can't help but think that Baron Kelvin would love that
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Theory: Joker and Beast killed Doll's parents and Doll was born into a noble family
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Okay yeah this was a weird thing to start with but I'll explain! Starters I mentioned this in a PM to @midnight-in-town about this theory but decided to finally write about it, this is a theory/headcanon I personally have you are free to not enjoy it or believe it cause this is my mind
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So in Book of Circus episode 5-6 (I forget the actual number) when Sebastian seduces Beast is where this started. In the scene building up the two going back to Beast's tent when Sebastian said along the lines, "Why must you be with a man who only brings you pain?" and instantly it flashes to this scene which I took screenshots for this research;
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This stuck with me.
Now I personally believe the additional scenes/scene changes, big or small, mean something from Yana to us. Like the added scenes of Doll and Ciel like Doll's conversation with Ciel once they got their tent for example. So in other words I don't feel like this was shown just for randoms.
Yet why do I think this scene is meant to be Joker killing Doll's parents? Cause he clearly loves her!
In the side story in the manga he tells the story of Doll's first loose tooth and how he was the one who suggested to look for work and then proceed to work for hours straight for one coin so Doll could believe the Tooth Fairy came.
He named Doll "Doll" cause to him he's precious
He clearly trusted Ciel enough to share a tent with her despite not knowing, same as Doll clearly trust him so much
Conclusion: Joker loves Doll. Probably much more than the rest of the circus group.
So this is the set up I have made up: Joker tracked down and killed Doll's biological family since compared to the others Doll went through worst. While everyone who was abandoned or wound up there was born with some sort of deformation or ailment, Doll was abused and horribly disfigured by her own family and then abandoned and she the youngest of the group so of course if they care for her they would probably kill them if they knew who they were... This could add some blackmail on Baron Kelvin on Joker. Cause Beast was right, they can easily run and if there were kids in the Workhouse they could just get them, not like Victorian orphanages had security, but Joker was very much firm to stay by Baron Kelvin most and even said "there's no turning back", maybe Baron Kelvin caught wind of the murder and promised to never tell a soul if he behaved.
Now the only evidence of this theory being the time period of the early circus years is the cloting
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Joker's outfit reminds me of Joker's outfit in the official art-
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But it also helps me pinpoint it takes place when Baron Kelvin went crazy-
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See the ruffle collar?
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The only difference is the hair, but I can argue this was still taken in early circus years.
Not to mention he looks rather... content/happy in this scene. I would assume his eyes would be wide or manic cause panic of being caught, not a soft look and a hint of a smile.
This theory alone was enough for me.
It was simple, it was easy.
Case close.
But then I looked at the background more to see why it feels... iffy...
This is when the second theory came in: Doll's backstory into weath.
First evidence, the painting:
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I actually wanted to figure out if I can find the painting's possible inspiration or look alike but it's so blurry I can't even figure out what it is.
But anyways-
I did some research to see if owning a painting was a sigh of wealth then and turns out I may be right!
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Okay so I can't trust the results but still-
So paintings are a lot of money, which still is a thing today, but there was art thieves in the Victorian Era so one can argue the ones in this home stole art. But I highly doubt someone was so stupid to hang their stolen piece of art up for the world to see.
Now onto the fireplace evidence-
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It's rather large with even some engraving details if you enhance the image.
Okay, so in this time period there was pretty much fireplaces in every home, BUT the only those in the middle class and upper class had ones in a larger scale with some form of ornament or art on it!
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This became my official name in my coffin. This was the final say of this house is wealthy or middle class at best.
So then... what would this mean?
Well, I mentioned this theory with @freckledfenrir and a bit with @deadlystarchart in our PM chats before and in those logs I've mentioned (I tried to go through so if either of you lovelies can screenshot where I said this so I can add it later it'll be helpful!) a possible picture;
You see back then there were more cases of missing kids/kids who were seen and never mentioned again then we assume. Ciel and Sebastian only got wind of the circus kidnapping shit because someone noticed a pattern and Queen Victoria was sad. Hell even Scotland Yard had problems in this case too! Back then families can easily abandoned, kill, or simply hide away a child and no one could bat an eye. Especially when money is involved. (You thought the rich vs the legal system was corrupt now?) So in theory Doll was probably born with either a upper class or middle class family, but someone with lots of money. She was abused, this is sadly still canon, but sometime after burning her, her family abandoned her in the East End.
You know a crazy fact I wasn't going to know if not for this theory? Rich people actually lived in the East End!
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So that means it would make it easy for the family to abandoned a poor wounded little child without suspicious people around. But to also add a tragic/fucked up layer they stayed in the area to constantly eye and maybe even mock the poor living conditions of their child.
This also gives Joker a easy access to see someone who either reminds him of Doll or maybe even see Doll react to a couple walking down the street, follow them home, remember that home, and when the night is perfectly still he alongside the rest of the circus troop, or just Beast, he broke in to make sure those people will feel the pain his precious sister felt and will never forget...
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pain-in-the-butler · 6 months ago
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Hi, I want to start this message by saying that I absolutely adore Coattails! This fic is such a pleasure to read! One of the things I love about this story is how you make Sebastian think about things he has done in the past (aka in the manga) to Ciel and how that affected the boy. It is interesting to see Sebastian's change through that. And I can't help but wonder: What coattails Sebastian would think now about how he reacted to and handled Ciel's PTSD panic attack in the circus arc?
Hello, anon! Thank you for reading Coattails and enjoying it so much! It's fun to make Sebastian reflective, to show how much he's changed and to explore guilt from the perspective of someone who isn't human and doesn't quite experience it the way a human does.
I suppose that while Sebastian did expound on the night at Baron Kelvin's manor a little bit in chapter 17, we haven't seen him return to it since he fully embraced his Dadsona. I would say that Sebastian's feelings towards his past actions are somewhat disconnected though. He kind of sees the "old Sebastian" as separate from who he is currently, so he can think to himself, "That was a pretty stupid thing I did!" and yet not really feel like it was his current self's fault.
He is more interested in who he is now, what he can do now, and more likely to feel guilt for the mistakes he makes as his current parental self. I guess in short and without really intending to, I gave him an Agni-style rebirth where his demon life is something he knows was his and yet feels shed like an old skin.
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thedarkestcrow · 2 years ago
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Looks familiar...?
Several times while wandering through the F.O.L. Orphanage Finny has the feeling that he has seen the building and the rooms within it somewhere before.
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And he’s right. Parts of the orphanage look very similar to rooms in the Phantomhive Manor. Here are some examples (left: Phantomhive Manor; right: F.O.L. Orphanage):
There’s the big staircase at the entrance...
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...the reception room...
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...or the servants’ room:
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Looks like someone modeled the orphanage after Phantomhive Manor.
And it’s not just the looks. The children in the orphanage are being taught to act like servants and to manage a household like a manor...
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...and then there are children whose teachings (and way of dressing) are very similar to the Phantomhive twins’ education and tastes.
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It kinda seems as if the orphanage is trying to recreate the twins. The focus on games...
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...even the preference of certain tastes (which is something the “aptitude test” is asking about)...
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...that they get their own room (which again looks familiar) when they turn ten (a very important date in the twins’ lives).
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All these similarities to the twins are kinda eerie and too much to be a coincidence. I wonder what’s the purpose of that...
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